- #LEE 356 124 2R ACCURATE 5 MANUALS#
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- #LEE 356 124 2R ACCURATE 5 MANUAL#
I've seen a few different methods, but this one seems to make the most sense without disassembling a gun. Here is a link to what I'm talking about: "How To Accurately Determine Cartridge Overall length". I've not found a local place that has the parts to build this cheap, so it might take a while for me to get back to this thread with my results. I think I'm going to try using a brass rod and two shaft collars to measure how long of a COL to be very close to the "lands" in the barrels and then go with the shorter one. Pleasantly the Hi-Point only had 1 failure to feed and no other issues with either gun. I didn't shoot paper (yet) to see how accurate it was, but I was able to hit a steel target about 30 feet away as often as I do with a factory fmj round. This load is well under 30,000 pressure according to QuickLOAD. I was surprised my averages were so close to the predicted speed. Carbine was 1156 min, 1367 max, averaging around 1280fps. Pistol was 1019 min, 1067 max, 1049 average with Standard Deviation of 16.03.
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I was still below the 4.0 that several people recommended so I loaded up 60 rounds and went out today with my chronograph. QuickLOAD predicted 1040fps on the pistol and 1292 on the carbine. I used a Cartridge Length of 1.128 because I felt the 1.100 was too short, and I picked Alliant Bullseye at 3.9 grains to load.
#LEE 356 124 2R ACCURATE 5 FULL SIZE#
I used 4.25 as barrel length on the S&W M&P Full Size pistol and 16.5 for the Hi-Point 995TS. I filled 10 cases with water and set max case capacity overflow to 13.6 from 13.30, bullet length from. I had never used it before and since I never could find published data for this specific bullet it was comforting to use as a tool to help see if my COL was too short or dangerous. I got carried away the last couple days playing with a friend's QuickLOAD program. Standard disclaimer: I don't know what I'm doing, don't copy what I'm doing. Posts: 977 Joined: Has thanked: 358 times Been thanked: 394 times My Press Choice: Single Stage Location: Far East In an MP5 I couldn't tell the difference. My experience tells me that the 9mm NATO cartridge really snaps a Browning High Power and it isn't at max. I don't like comparing different specs such as SAAMI, CIP and NATO as the pressures are measured at different points. These are definitely designed for higher pressure with such features as chambers that fully support case heads. I have no experience with pistol calibers in rifles but a fair amount in SMG and machine pistols. BTW the 147 grain bullet is another option but it would require getting up to +P pressures. It is a work in progress but I am confident I will get there. In another thread I describe my experimentation with respect to using 158 grain bullets. If I have a complaint it is the 124 grain bullet has some challenges with respect to the steel poppers used in IPSC. My pistol is still nice and tight after 10,000+ rounds. I don't like being above a predicted pressure of 30k in the 9mm because it is an unforgiving caliber with respect to the variations that always creep into reloading such as case capacity, bullet length, powder lots and equipment tolerances. I ran the bullet at an OAL of 1.128 in Quick Load and it only gave an increase of 20 FPS but drove pressure to 32K. This load reliably cycles the pistol and is very accurate.
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With 5.0 grains of VV N340 I get at least 1100 FPS out of my 5 inch barrel M&P9. The Lee bullet drops from my mold at an average of. While these are plated bullets I used them to establish the starting length. The 1.145 is based upon the OAL of 1.142 (Vihtavouri Site) for the true round nose bullet by Rainer or the same profile Berry's RN at 124 grains.
#LEE 356 124 2R ACCURATE 5 MANUALS#
Did any of the manuals suggest the 1.145 or is that the longest that would fit your mag and barrel? What guns have you used this in? Any of them a Hi-Point 995TS or S&W M&P Full Size pistol? markt9 Posts: 5 Joined: Has thanked: 0 time Been thanked: 0 time My Press Choice: Turret Location: MI Your picture seems that the case is up to the 2nd from last ring on the bottom of the bullet. I've been getting people saying 1.100 is what they use. I'm interested in how you came to 1.145 OAL for this bullet. This is my setup round so it is getting a bit worn but it shows the seating in the case. W231 gives me similar performance to VV340 at much less cost but Clays and Bullseye not so good. I have also tried Bullseye, W231 and Clays. Max published load is 5.1 grains but I stay just below. This is my standard IPSC bullet pushed by VV340 to an average of 1100 FPS.
#LEE 356 124 2R ACCURATE 5 MANUAL#
Manual used was Lee second edition for 124 grain lead and from the Vihtavouri website for a Rainer lead round nose. Wheel weights with 3-5% added tin solder and water quenched.